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Which Takes Priority for You - Mortgage or Credit Card Bill?

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I read an article on CNNMoney that exposed a new trend among the debt-ridden: paying their credit card bill before their mortgage. You can read the original article by clicking the link:
Consumers paying credit card over mortgage
According to recent data, 6.6% of people are delinquent on their mortgage payments, but current on their credit cards. Only 3.6% were current on their mortgage and behind on their credit cards. Apparently it’s easier to walk away from a home with a declining equity stake than it is to fall behind on your favorite payment tool.
Mr. Bubble
The housing bubble is to blame for this turnabout. California and Florida have been the hardest hit, and the trend is even more pronounced in these states. In the Land of Arnold, 10.2% were late on their mortgages but current on the plastic, while only 2.7% were on the flipside. The Sunshine State had 12.4% behind on their house payment, with 3.9% in the reverse situation.
Avalanche of Debt
Maybe they’re using a half-assed version of the Dave Ramsey Debt Snowball method - paying off the smallest debt first. But I think they were supposed to at least make the minimum payment - which, in the case of a mortgage, is probably their largest payment. These people need to find a balance when it comes to debt repayment. If you’re in arrears on your mortgage payment, and relying on credit cards to pay your daily expenses, you’re probably just one straw away from breaking the camel’s back, so to speak.
I feel for these people. Thank God I’m not in the same situation, as I paid off my mortgage years ago. What do you think? Would you choose to pay your credit card bill before paying your mortgage? What’s Plan B when the bank forecloses on your house?
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Credit Card Interest: The Terminator

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“Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.”
- Kyle Reese, from The Terminator
Just replace “terminator” with “interest” and we can apply Kyle Reese’s statement to credit card debt. I guess Reese never owned a credit card. Good for him. All he had to worry about were Terminators. He had it easy. For those of you saddled with credit card debt, I sympathize. I once walked among you. But I escaped from the nightmare world of never-sleeping interest, and so can you.
The Citi never sleeps
There used to be a commercial in the 1970’s, where the tagline was “the Citi never sleeps.” It was a commercial for Citibank, a subsidiary of Citigroup, who I’m sure you’re familiar with if you carry credit cards. The slogan sounds quite insidious, don’t you think? They should change the slogan to “the accumulating interest never sleeps”, but while it’s more accurate, it’s much less catchy. An even better slogan would be “the debtor loses sleep”, because that’s what happened to me when I carried credit card debt. I’m sure my story is similar to many of you out there.
It started with the house
After buying our first house, my wife and I got caught in a cycle of growing credit card debt. We used as much of our savings as possible for a down payment. While this lowered the amount we borrowed on our mortgage, it left us with little cushion for any unexpected expenses. Those of you who have older houses know all about those. Between home improvements and car repairs, we racked up quite a bit of credit card debt in a short period of time. The Terminator went to work while we slept.
A few miserable years
After taking stock of what we owed, we proceeded to develop a debt repayment plan. We took a hard look at our monthly expenses, and made the necessary cuts to lower our spending. Then we did a calculation of how long it would take to pay off all of our credit cards. After our jaws hit the floor, we recalculated, and came up with the same result. With the cuts to our entertainment budget, we were in for a few trying years. It was our first strike back at the Terminator.
Things start to look up
First, we stopped using credit cards, cold turkey. We threw every extra dollar that was left over at our debt. Every raise was sent to Citigroup, or MasterCard, or Sears. Any windfall that came our way went to knocking down the principal. We were using a debt snowball before I ever heard of Dave Ramsey. Finally, after years of poor raises, I scored a job that offered a significant jump in salary, and we started to make some headway into our debt repayment. The Terminator was on the ropes!
On a roll
We stuck to our plan, and eliminated our credit card debt. We took the extra cash flow and started to chip away at our mortgage. After several years of additional sacrifice, we were mortgage-free. Let me tell you, it’s nice to have a positive cash flow. SkyNet had been defeated!
Now that I’m older and wiser, here’s some advice to prevent you from going into debt:
Wait to buy your first house - renting isn’t “throwing money away”, as many will have you believe. We could have stuck it out in our apartment for a couple more years, and saved more money in the meantime.
Start an emergency fund before you buy a house - trust me, as soon as you put the key in the door, something will require fixing. Plan ahead. Don’t put your repairs on your credit card.
Set up a budget before you get your mortgage - set your own limits now, before you get too accustomed to just winging it.
Don’t put down every cent that you have - while it’s nice to have a smaller mortgage, don’t hamstring yourself by leaving no liquid cash. Keep something on the side.
Pay cash - at least until you’re sure that you have the discipline to pay off your credit card balance every month.
But, if you’ve already got the Terminator on your back, here’s what worked for me. I warn you, this will be painful:
Stop using the credit cards - I know, duh, so obvious. But you’d be surprised how easy it is to use the cards “just one more time.” Stick them in the freezer if you have to. I told you this would be painful.
Make a budget - it doesn’t have to be an elaborate one, either. Find a format that works for you, and get cracking. You can find mine in this post. You’ll be surprised where all of your money goes. Ignorance is not bliss when it comes to personal finance.
Start an emergency fund - start putting some money away. How much is up to you. I’d recommend doing an analysis of any potential short-term risks, such as car repairs, home repairs, or medical expenses, and save accordingly.
Use the debt snowball - this is the Dave Ramsey method. From your budget, you’ll be able to determine how much you can throw at your debt each month. This is your monthly debt allotment. Pay the minimum on all of you cards except the one with the smallest balance. Add up the total of these minimum payments. Then, subtract that number from your monthly debt allotment, to determine the amount to be paid to the smallest card’s balance. Pay this amount on the smallest-balance card. This strategy ensures that you’ll be paying off more principal, and help you eliminate one debt at a time. It keeps the momentum going, and gives you a short-term goal to shoot for.
Or, use another method - some argue that Dave Ramsey’s method doesn’t take into account the difference in interest rates. I’m one of them. I prefer to pay the minimum on all of the cards except the one with the highest interest rate. Then, pay the remainder against this card’s balance. You’ll be knocking down the balance on the card with the highest debt. It may delay your gratification of paying off a card, but will lower your interest payments in the long run.
Throw any “found money” at your debt - if you get a raise, don’t grow your lifestyle, put it toward your debt instead.
Don’t neglect your investments - continue to invest in your company’s 401(k) plan. Contribute enough to get matching contributions from your employer. When your debt is paid off, you can shoot for fully-funding your 401(k).
Pay off your mortgage - I know that right now, this appears to be a far-off pipedream. But if you stick to the plan, you’ll be able to pay off your mortgage eventually, and say Hasta la vista to the Terminator.
For those of you interested in Dave Ramsey’s method, click on the picture for his book:
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5 Years to Pay Off a $100K Debt

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A Wisconsin family won the Professional Achievement and Counseling Excellence (PACE) Award for paying down $106K in debt. You can read the original article by clicking the following link:
The Biggest Losers (of Debt): How a Family Shed $106,000 in Debt
While they still have a mortgage, they’ve eliminated $89K in credit card balances and a $17K loan to family members. While I applaud them for their efforts, I wonder, how do you rack up $89K in credit card debt? The interest payments must have been enormous. At what point did they feel they needed credit counseling help? $50K? $75K? It seems like they waited a little too long to put on the brakes.
The family wasn’t a victim of a balloon mortgage; in fact, they rented their home:
Not that the Hildebrandts’ lifestyle was lavish. The couple, along with their twin daughters, Heidi and Holly, lived in a rented 1,000 square foot townhome. Vacations consisted of visits to extended family members in the Midwest. Russell was a chemist with a Twin Cities-based environmental testing laboratory; Kandy was a stay-at-home mom and home-schooled their daughters.
It seems that the family had its share of medical problems, and continued to tithe to their church, even though they were sinking deeper into debt. If I were in their shoes, the tithing would have been the first thing that I cut back on. I know, I’m a cynical Catholic, and I’m going to hell. But 10% of your salary is a big nut. Well, the husband was a better man than me, and refused to file for bankruptcy even while he continued to tithe. Instead, the family signed up with a credit counseling service and vowed to stick to a five-year plan to eliminate their debt.
It was rough sailing from the beginning. The family couldn’t come up with the $2,000 per month to pay their creditors. This equated to half of their take-home pay. They had to make sacrifices:
Several steps were key to making the plan work. Kandy and Russell eliminated discretionary spending. Kandy began buying generic food and frequenting thrift stores for clothing purchases. They stopped exchanging Christmas and birthday gifts with each other and their relatives.
The husband took on a second job, cleaning a local grocery store several nights a week. They made do with one car. Their credit card balances started to slowly decrease.
And then the wife got pregnant again.
The couple could have thrown in the towel with the new baby expenses, but they used their new addition as a positive, and remained on track to pay off their debts. They paid off their credit cards 6 months ahead of schedule. They even used the first-time home buyers tax credit to purchase a home.
So, all that they have left is a mortgage payment. At least they bought the house after the bubble burst, so they’re not underwater. While I admire their determination, and their execution, I would have done things a little differently:
Send the kids to public school - The kids were homeschooled. Nothing wrong with that, but by sending them to public school, you’d free up their mother (You see where this is going).
The wife gets a job - Another income, even for a limited period of time, would be a big help. Apply it directly to the debt payments. That should knock some months off the schedule.
Cut back on the tithing - (Watches for thunderbolt from above) I’m sure this suggestion would be dismissed by this family, but I would at least cut this back a little. I mean, the kids didn’t even get Christmas presents!
Don’t get me wrong, they did a great job getting out of debt. I just would have done some things differently. What about you? Is there some opportunity that they missed?
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Pay Off Debt or Save Money?
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A recent Yahoo! Finance article weighed the benefits of paying off debt versus putting your money into savings. You can read the original article by clicking on the following link:
Should You Pay Debt Before Saving?
Clearly, there is no one-size-fits-all answer to the question. The logical approach favors paying off high-interest debt before putting money in savings. After all, the difference in interest rates makes this approach a no-brainer. Why tie up money for 1.25% in a savings account when you could pay off a credit card with a 16% interest rate?
Donna Fox, author of the book “From Credit Repair to Credit Millionaire,” says low interest rates on savings accounts make paying off debt first a better choice right now.
“People get into trouble with debt and finance when they start letting emotions vote on their outcome,” says Fox. “So they feel better if they have a cushion in their savings account, even though for most people it’s not the financial savvy thing to do.”
She cites the example of someone who has $10,000 in savings (earning 2 percent) and $10,000 in credit card debt (at a rate of 9 percent). Anyone pleased with this situation is misguided, Fox says.
“This is like investing your $10,000 in an investment you know will lose 7 percent a year … and being happy about it,” she says.
Sure, this makes sense, from a strictly logical approach. You could look at one extreme, where you’d apply all of your extra money toward your outstanding debt, and put nothing in the bank. But would you really feel secure having nothing in your savings account, even though you’re paying down your debt at a higher rate? True, the debt may disappear faster, but you would have the uneasiness of having nothing in your savings. What would you do when an emergency happens, and you have no emergency fund?
The other extreme has you paying the minimum payment on all of your debts, and dumping the rest into savings. Although you’d have enough cash to cover emergencies, it would make paying off the debt a lifelong endeavor. Clearly a compromise can be struck that doesn’t optimize either side, but creates a proper balance.
Having a stash of emergency cash is more important in today’s economic times of tight credit, says Sarah Place, president and CEO of Place Trade Financial, a full-service, discount brokerage firm based in Raleigh, N.C.
She suggests socking away six to 12 months of easily accessible cash to cover any unexpected expenses. Access to such money is especially important today, when many people have found their home equity line of credit has been reduced — or even canceled.
Place acknowledges that it’s difficult to tell people to save “in an environment where they are earning a fraction of a percent of interest on their savings” while being charged “usurious loan shark rates of over 30 percent on their credit cards.”
Only you can determine the proper size of your emergency fund. The shakiness of your job will be a factor in the number of months of expenses that you can cover. An interesting piece of advice was given regarding 401(k) contributions:
Michael Rubin, president of Portsmouth, N.H.-based Total Candor, a provider of financial education, advocates paying down debt before saving. However, he cites exceptions to the rule. In particular, he urges a “save first” approach in situations where a person’s employer matches contributions to the company retirement plan.
“The guarantee provided by a matching program is even more valuable than repaying credit card debt, so one should always maximize the match first,” says Rubin, who is author of the book “Beyond Paycheck to Paycheck: A Conversation About Income, Wealth, and the Steps in Between.”
Or, you could follow Dave Ramsey’s Baby Steps, which have helped many people get their finances under control:
- $1,000 to start an Emergency Fund
- Pay off all debt using the Debt Snowball
- Three to six months of expenses in savings
- Invest 15 percent of household income into Roth IRAs and pre-tax retirement
- College funding for children
- Pay off home early
- Build wealth and give! Invest in mutual funds and real estate
The strategy that I used was a balance. I funded my 401(k) first, and threw the remaining funds at my credit card debt each month. When that was paid off, I started on the mortgage. Once that was paid off, I did a little dance of joy, and started saving in earnest.
Find which strategy fits your goals the best, and follow that one. Don’t be afraid to change it up as you go along. This isn’t a science, it’s an art.
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Posted by enrique s in Book & Product Reviews, Frugality, Money on April 21st, 2009
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The authors feel that there are three things that will keep you trapped: an unwillingness to change, and your ATM and credit cards. These cards represent instant gratification, making it too easy to spend your money. In order to achieve the goals laid out in the book, you should make spending difficult and uncomfortable.
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- Bank with People - Remove the ATM card from your wallet also, and go to the bank once a week for cash. Withdraw the cash by writing yourself a check. Don’t spend any more than you’ve withdrawn.
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- Avoid “Everest” Buying - Don’t buy something “because it’s there.” Buy things only when you need them, not when you want them.
- Ignore the New - Don’t buy the latest gadget, but wait forsomething that answers a true need.
- Repair Before You Replace - Retailers profit more on new things than repairing old things, so focus on repairing what you have.
- Pay Yourself First - Put away what you can in your 401K, and do it automatically.
My Take:
- For people that have no self-control, this is the best advice. However, if you’re responsible, you can use credit cards to your advantage, such as rewards or zero-interest arbitrage, provided you pay off the balance each month.
- I’m disciplined enough that I don’t abuse my ATM card. I stick to my weekly budget. I rarely go to the bank.
- I track most large expenses, but our walking-around money doesn’t get analyzed. As long as we stay under our weekly allowance I’m happy.
- Well, we’re living in our first home, and probably will for the near future. We bought the home in part for the tax advantages, and have added on to it over time, paying cash for the improvements. We’ve also paid off our mortgage.
- I use a cooling-off period to counteract impulse buys. Can’t argue with that one.
- Or that one, either.
- I repair rather than replace if it makes sense. I’m not upgrading an old computer if I can buy a new one for the same price as the repair.
- We do this. The key is to automate it. Pretend you didn’t get that raise, and put that away, too.
In Part 3 of my review of Die Broke, we’ll examine the third step, called Don’t Retire.
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Posted by enrique s in Book & Product Reviews, Career, Frugality, Money on April 20th, 2009
In Die Broke, Stephen M. Pollan and Mark Levine propose “a radical, four-part financial plan to restore your confidence, increase your net worth, and afford you the lifestyle of your dreams.” Hey, sign me up! The book, first published in 1997, attempts to poke holes in conventional financial and estate planning. Though published over ten years ago, the material seems rather timely, namely the authors’ assumption that real estate values will be stagnant, and excessive borrowing will lead to financial ruin. Let’s take a look at the four-part plan. We’ll start with the first step, called Quit Today.
Step One: Quit Today
The first step in the Die Broke philosophy is to realize that job security is dead. The authors want us to give up hope of following the outdated Career Ethic that created the loyal, organization man of our parents’ time. We shouldn’t be defined by our jobs, or seek self-fulfillment from our careers. We should separate ourselves from our jobs, to pay more attention to our own bottom lines as we do to our company’s. A job should be used to generate the money necessary for you to pursue your financial goals, and nothing more. The authors call this the Mercantile Ethic, and lay out these principles:
- It’s Just a Job - Forget about a holistic work life, and concentrate on actually having a life.
- Jump Ship - Quit in your head, as the only way to increase job satisfaction and/or income is to get another job. The more job hopping that you do, the more likely you’ll increase income. Always look for a new job.
- Short Term is the Only Term - Long-term benefits like pensions are worthless if you’re fired before becoming fully vested. Focus instead on short-term benefits that will improve your quality of life, such as health insurance, day care, parental leave, telecommuting, flex-time, and even health club memberships.
- Lateral is Better than Vertical - It’s better to take a lateral move that expands your skills than it is to take a position with greater responsibility. There’s probably no increase in pay, just the chance to be a scapegoat. Added skills make it easier to jump ship.
- Will This Be on the Test? - Learn exactly what’s expected of you and do it the best you can. Do your job well, then go home.
- Just Do It - Pay no attention to company politics. Who gets credit doesn’t matter.
- There Are No Dues - There’s no point in paying your dues, as jobs must make economic sense from day one.
- Show Me the Money - The only reward that matters is what you are paid. Everything other than money can come from the rest of your life. Your job is the only part of your life that will bring you money, so you need to maximize that.
My Take:
- Wow, and here I was following Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs all these years. I’ve always looked for something else besides money from my job, whether it’s friendship, company softball games, golf outings, respect, etc.
- I tend to only look for a new job when I feel that I’ve stopped learning. I treat my job as a kind of paid schooling. Why leave if class isn’t over yet?
- I don’t know about you, but if I have to put in an extra year to become vested in a pension, I’m doing my best to try to stick around.
- I agree with this one, why take a promotion on a promise of greater income, when the company would have to hire someone from outside at the going rate.
- You should always know what your job responsibilities are, and they should be defined by your boss.
- It’s hard to ignore company politics if they affect you directly.
- I think you have to pay some dues when you join a new company. It’s just part of learning the job, and earning people’s respect.
- I guess the bottom line is the bottom line, though I do get more out of my job than just a paycheck.
We’ll take a look at Step 2, Pay Cash, in Part 2 of the Die Broke review.
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